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Discussion in 'Buy and Sell' started by Little Spoon, Dec 25, 2017.

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  1. Gord

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    Gord, Dec 27, 2017
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    Tony, Dec 27, 2017
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    Which crimpers do you use? I find the cheap yellow handled one suck.. And I try to solder everything now also, not possible now too cold in the garage.lol
     
    Gord, Dec 27, 2017
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    I use the yellow handle crimpers and find they work decent enough. Too cold to solder? LMAO. Why can't you solder in the house?
     
    Tony, Dec 27, 2017
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    Don’t think the wife would go for soldering in house. I can bring it to my brothers man cave garage. Lol


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    I just use disconnect terminals. Cheap and readily available, they make good contact, if they do get loose, little pinch with needle nose and it's good again.

    Same connectors that fit on your stock boat fuse panel and flasher/portable electronics battery.

    My Elite-7 has it's own power cable that goes with it from the bow to the sno-mo to a flasher battery I use to browse while on the couch.

    No dickin' around with redoing solder joints.

    http://www.globalindustrial.ca/p/electrical/Terminals-and-Disconnects/Disconnects/fully-insulated-disconnect-f-12-10-awg-yellow-250-tab-50-pk?infoParam.campaignId=T9F&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsPL54Y2t2AIVxrfACh1qTQDJEAQYAyABEgKuXvD_BwE
     
    Mike B., Dec 28, 2017
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    ^^^ smart.
    I put the same connectors o as well, that way it is a simple plug and play between summer fishing and ice fishing.
    I tried soldering, but being inexperienced at it, no go - i suck at that!
    I ended up getting a real good set of crimpers (Klein) and i cant believe the difference that made in the terminals gripping the wire - before this, i simply squeezed terminals with pliers, and inevitably the wires loosened - not anymore!
     
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    yep, a good set of crimpers is key to connectors holding put. I have a set of Channel Lock brand that i got when i was 16 and started into the trades and still use them today, they make a great crimp.
     
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    YouTube is where I learned how to solder. Although I am novice I like the fact that there is a real bond to the connections. I just ordered some ratcheting crimpers and plug ins for my electronics.
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    Good solder joints have been a must in my field of work for over 20 yrs....but also- NOT cutting wires when you don't need to is even more important.

    Cutting and re-soldering in Fall and Spring is not something I want to do (And I have a box of 200 metres of 18/2 and miles of solder in my garage)

    Like Chris says--plug n play. Not a bad idea to use Ox-Guard to keep a solid connection, prevent corrosion and make it easier to pull the disconnects apart at the change of the season.

    Good crimps are key. Klein is the shiz and Channel Locks are as good. I use cheap crap crimps....only need the right size and you're golden, but the good brands like Klein and Channel Lock will stop the crimp before you mash the connector and break it.....my cheap ones I use *feel* from crimping 100's of thousands of times over 20 years

    One thing with solder joints, even tho for our flashers and graphs they don't use sweet eff all for amps and no data (for power connections).....a solder will make stranded wire into a solid wire.....not good for data and not good for higher amps (will heat up if you change the property of the stranded wire to an insufficient surface area to carry the amps)

    If it's a one-time install and you won't be moving a sonar/GPS unit from the boat to the ice, a good solder will serve that purpose nicely, but having things modular and plug n play is never a bad thing.
     
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    Very interesting @Mike B. Good info..
     
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    It is very convenient for me to take a spare flasher battery from the basement, slide the disconnect terminals onto it, put my feet up on the couch and browse AEM maps on my HDS-12 or Elite-7, and do some easy waypoint management.

    It helps pass the Winter by and is a big bonus when planning trips year round.

    Come March, I'd rather do that with my HDS-12 on my lap and browse around Falcon Lake AEM to start planning tournament day...then go ice fishing. It's more fun to me.
     
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    Im already dieing to start laying waypoints for the summer
     
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    @Gord that price for those crimpers is very good. Those cripmers have made me a star...actually take the human(error) aspect out of it. Soldering don't worry, with a few key points and practice practice practice everyone can be good.@chrism I probably suck at shooting now as I have not fired a round for about 10 years. But when I did practice, was not a bad shot same thing as soldering.
     
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    Hardcore boating and yachting folk, who deal with complicated 12V electrical systems on vessels that are worth more than my house, typically advocate crimped (properly) versus soldered connections. Harder to fuck up is a part of the logic, but there are other reasons (some have already been touched on here).
     
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    Just please for the love of whoever, don’t use scotchlock connectors!


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    Where’s the fun in that???
     
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    I like the guys on this site lol, they can use em on the other site then.


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    Come on I just used those hooking up my new Motorguide!

    J/K I actually had one of my few successful solder jobs hooking this up but now I'm a little worried I did the wrong thing. @Mike B.
     
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